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		<title>By: Jake Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.rethinkmission.org/church/in-defense-of-physical-community-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garrett - Got it. Sorry don&#039;t know any fundies to follow that you probably don&#039;t know. :)

Thanks for the props on the website. We&#039;re currently working on a new one that will be much more user friendly and geared towards new visitors. 

Best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrett &#8211; Got it. Sorry don&#8217;t know any fundies to follow that you probably don&#8217;t know. <img src='http://www.rethinkmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the props on the website. We&#8217;re currently working on a new one that will be much more user friendly and geared towards new visitors. </p>
<p>Best!</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man.  Thanks for the response!  Ummm...an annoying tweeter...someone who is shamelessly self promoting in all of his/her tweets...like someone who just recently published a book and that is ALL she talks about or a guy who thinks he is really witty in his tweets and every tweet is some kind of audition to be a writer for Letterman or something.  I do follow some people who have much more &quot;traditional&quot; Christian views than I do but I follow them because I am friends with them, not because I want to specifically want to hear their views on God.  Do you have any fundies you would recommend I follow?  BTW, looked at the Praxis website last night and what I have seen looks GREAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man.  Thanks for the response!  Ummm&#8230;an annoying tweeter&#8230;someone who is shamelessly self promoting in all of his/her tweets&#8230;like someone who just recently published a book and that is ALL she talks about or a guy who thinks he is really witty in his tweets and every tweet is some kind of audition to be a writer for Letterman or something.  I do follow some people who have much more &#8220;traditional&#8221; Christian views than I do but I follow them because I am friends with them, not because I want to specifically want to hear their views on God.  Do you have any fundies you would recommend I follow?  BTW, looked at the Praxis website last night and what I have seen looks GREAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.rethinkmission.org/church/in-defense-of-physical-community-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Garrett,

Thanks for your kind words. In response to your questions.

1. There are no churches as of yet that I know of that are purely online as the only expression of their meeting. Though I do know of the top of my head that Flamingo Road, LifeChurch.tv both have Internet campuses that are purely online in addition to other physical campuses. Additionally, LifeChurch.tv has a Second Life campus, which you can read about here: http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/03/12/lifechurchtv-has-a-second-life-church-campus/

2. Not entirely sure what the aim of this question is, but I would say that relativism is a strong component of postmodernism, though I know that many postmoderns are more akin to saying there is absolute truth, but that we can&#039;t absolutely know it since all truth is run through the filter of culture.

3. I don&#039;t say that of the church in digitalsim age. I say that of people in general whether in church or not. It is not postmodern to have doubts and questions – after all, David did so all through out the Psalms. Still, David affirmed God&#039;s sovereignty and the truth of the scriptures despite that. I&#039;d venture to say that what is postmodern is to idolize those doubts and questions and make them as important or more important than the Gospel which often has answers that we simply don&#039;t like or find culturally acceptable. 

I&#039;d be curious to hear what constitutes an annoying tweet to you that would cause you to unfollow someone. Do you follow people who are fundamentalists and not more open to hearing from other people in order to hear their point of view? 

Thanks again, and all the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Garrett,</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words. In response to your questions.</p>
<p>1. There are no churches as of yet that I know of that are purely online as the only expression of their meeting. Though I do know of the top of my head that Flamingo Road, LifeChurch.tv both have Internet campuses that are purely online in addition to other physical campuses. Additionally, LifeChurch.tv has a Second Life campus, which you can read about here: <a href="http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/03/12/lifechurchtv-has-a-second-life-church-campus/" rel="nofollow">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/03/12/lifechurchtv-has-a-second-life-church-campus/</a></p>
<p>2. Not entirely sure what the aim of this question is, but I would say that relativism is a strong component of postmodernism, though I know that many postmoderns are more akin to saying there is absolute truth, but that we can&#8217;t absolutely know it since all truth is run through the filter of culture.</p>
<p>3. I don&#8217;t say that of the church in digitalsim age. I say that of people in general whether in church or not. It is not postmodern to have doubts and questions – after all, David did so all through out the Psalms. Still, David affirmed God&#8217;s sovereignty and the truth of the scriptures despite that. I&#8217;d venture to say that what is postmodern is to idolize those doubts and questions and make them as important or more important than the Gospel which often has answers that we simply don&#8217;t like or find culturally acceptable. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to hear what constitutes an annoying tweet to you that would cause you to unfollow someone. Do you follow people who are fundamentalists and not more open to hearing from other people in order to hear their point of view? </p>
<p>Thanks again, and all the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really enjoying your writing style and looking forward to checking out your church&#039;s website.  I wanted to ask a few questions here.  

1.  What are some examples of churches that are online only and nave no physical community?

2.  Do you equate the terms &quot;postmodernism&quot; and &quot;relativism&quot;?

3.  You say of the church in the Digitalism age that only those who carry the same truth, or who are willing to not question that truth, are sought out to become part of community.  That is exactly what I see wrong with much of the &quot;modernist&quot; Christian communities, like the one I grew up in.  I see the &quot;postmodern&quot; Christian community as being more open to hearing the views of other people and more open to questions and doubts, especially questions about faith and doubts about God.  While I do &quot;unfollow&quot; people with annoying tweets, I have intentionally followed people who I know are from different religious backgrounds and will be tweeting their religious views.  I think a lot of top 100 largest and fastest growing churches are very modernist in their approaches, especially their approach to authority and truth.  

While I guess I dont agree with some of your definitions and assessments of the problem, I do think that online Christian communities that have no physical interaction or desire to do so are absurd...but then again, I am an extrovert so of course I would think that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really enjoying your writing style and looking forward to checking out your church&#8217;s website.  I wanted to ask a few questions here.  </p>
<p>1.  What are some examples of churches that are online only and nave no physical community?</p>
<p>2.  Do you equate the terms &#8220;postmodernism&#8221; and &#8220;relativism&#8221;?</p>
<p>3.  You say of the church in the Digitalism age that only those who carry the same truth, or who are willing to not question that truth, are sought out to become part of community.  That is exactly what I see wrong with much of the &#8220;modernist&#8221; Christian communities, like the one I grew up in.  I see the &#8220;postmodern&#8221; Christian community as being more open to hearing the views of other people and more open to questions and doubts, especially questions about faith and doubts about God.  While I do &#8220;unfollow&#8221; people with annoying tweets, I have intentionally followed people who I know are from different religious backgrounds and will be tweeting their religious views.  I think a lot of top 100 largest and fastest growing churches are very modernist in their approaches, especially their approach to authority and truth.  </p>
<p>While I guess I dont agree with some of your definitions and assessments of the problem, I do think that online Christian communities that have no physical interaction or desire to do so are absurd&#8230;but then again, I am an extrovert so of course I would think that.</p>
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		<title>By: In Defense of Physical Community – Part One &#124; Rethink Mission</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Defense of Physical Community – Part One &#124; Rethink Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: In Defense of Physical Community – Part Three &#124; Rethink Mission</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Defense of Physical Community – Part Three &#124; Rethink Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan McIntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake - I really appreciate your distinction here between post-modernism &amp; Digitalism... truth subjected to culture and truth subjected to the individual.

Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake &#8211; I really appreciate your distinction here between post-modernism &#038; Digitalism&#8230; truth subjected to culture and truth subjected to the individual.</p>
<p>Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: JR Ramsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well thought out, thank you. Looking forward to the rest of the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well thought out, thank you. Looking forward to the rest of the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it! Love it! Love it!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Physical vs. Virtual Churches &#8211; You can only show up at one of these in your underwear. at CraigSaboe.com</dc:creator>
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